Comments on: #Tribes Day 14 – So why do it?

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By: Fiona Martin

Fiona Martin — Sat, 02 May 2009 08:50:32 +0000

I really enjoyed that, I think sometimes we get so caught up in our own decisions that we forget our place in the tribe and the impact that we have.

Thanks for the reminder that i am part of something bigger.

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By: Susan K. Stewart

Susan K. Stewart — Wed, 29 Apr 2009 01:40:06 +0000

Boy, it’s hard to get back with the program after being gone for several days. I’ve been keeping up with reading.

Mike — I’m with you. I, too, often feel like just giving up. What’s the purpose of being a heretic if no one listens? Or, if they listen, don’t care?

Then someone comes along, asks the right question and off I go – being heretical again. God won’t let me leave. I can only pray that this time that someone will not just listen, but hear.

That brings me to what really stood out in today’s reading, “Great leaders don’t try to please everyone.”

In one way or another we all want to please others. But, if we are take that leap of faith, we will ruffle a few feathers. In fact, some people won’t like us because of it.

We must first please God, then please those we love, then ourselves. Anyone else we please becomes our tribe.

By: Mike Henry

Mike Henry — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:49:47 +0000

Phillip,

Thanks. This was a thoughtful post with good questions. I feel like a heretic that is still working on a following. It gets hard sometimes to remain persistent after the ideas that make you a heretic. Sometimes I feel like I need to give up and follow someone else, but God doesn’t seem to let go of me in that regard. It’s awkward.

Mike…

By: Phillip Gibb

Phillip Gibb — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:56:43 +0000

yes – if you are brave enough to be honest about the fact that you are resisting

By: Adam S

Adam S — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:26:53 +0000

I was reading a book on prayer the other day and it suggested that the reason that God allows trouble in our lives is so we will be forced to pray. Taking leaps of faith are similar if we can already do it then it is not a leap of faith. If we are stepping out beyond then we will be forced to prayer and dependence on God. Exactly where we should be.

By: Paul Steinbrueck

Paul Steinbrueck — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:17:37 +0000

For me the most notable concept of this section was “The Plurality Myth.” A lot of the time I feel like I need to be able to convince a majority of people to join my movement. I feel like if I ask someone to join me and they say “no” that that’s a failure. That creates pressure to appeal to people, pressure to water down the message, or pressure to offer incentives to join me.

A better way to go is just to lay out your vision as clearly as possible and then let the chips fall where they may. The people with whom it resonates will join you. The people with whom it doesn’t, won’t. I don’t need a majority of people to join my movement, I just need a small number of people who passionately share my vision for the future and want to work to make it happen.

By: Phillip Gibb

Phillip Gibb — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:57:05 +0000

I think it was James Dobson who once spoke about the ups and downs of life and that it was cyclical – I don’t think that one could very productive if you were always trying to be productive – sometimes you need a break. Maybe this is true with being a leader, being a heretic. That there is a case for a break without loosing momentum so that when you come back you come back refreshed and eager.
This sometimes works for me in programming.

By: Phillip Gibb

Phillip Gibb — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:48:41 +0000

Sorry, caught me in a son bathing and supper hour

By: norman Tumlinson

norman Tumlinson — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:33:58 +0000

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By: norman Tumlinson

norman Tumlinson — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:31:48 +0000

I think I have cyclical patterns of “stuckness” and then productive leadership. Then I get stuck again. This sometimes drives me insane and I wish there was someway I could get out of it. But I don’t know if we ever do? Maybe?!?

I like things to be linear and seamless, but in the way of the tribe there is probably more rough patches or unknown variables in the mix. I’ve see Chris Sharma stuff on youtube and the guy is sick. But even with all his experience, he still faces the danger of falling. So maybe, we do still face (depending on how daring/intense our vision is) the chance we will be dashed on the rocks below. But we need to talk ourselves out of that fear and find more power in the leap than in the idea of the fall.

By: Shannon La France

Shannon La France — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:12:00 +0000

one person with a persistent vision can make change happen, … love this quote in bold. Oh boy here a copy an paste from Phillip’s comment above How many leaders are stuck in a position where they know that they should leave – it’s the right thing to do – but they feel they need to keep the tribe together. Then the tribes slowly dies as they realize that the leader no longer has that persistence of vision or faith in what he/she is doing….
Just pray for me the Lord has given me a vision for social media & the coffee company it just keeps growing keeping me on my knees which is good! May I be found faithful right/write where I am as I WAIT Patiently for the Lord to reveal the next steps in this vision. I don’t have any trouble being a heretic…only have trouble being a patient one as I wait for others to catch the vision that I’ve been given. If not me then WHO? I have some very big sit-down’s coming up with leadership. Trusting and taking a leap of Faith is what it requires “eyes wide Open”

By: Phillip Gibb

Phillip Gibb — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 14:01:44 +0000

There’s a few interesting points there:
How many leaders are stuck in a position where they know that they should leave – it’s the right thing to do – but they feel they need to keep the tribe together. Then the tribes slowly dies as they realize that the leader no longer has that persistence of vision or faith in what he/she is doing. The tribe falls apart in an unhealthy manner whereas a leader that recognizes the issue and deals with it; passing on the torch or taking a new direction, is better.

and I sometimes sit back when I think someone else can do it better – hell, who am I fooling – I always sit back. It is bad; a complacent heretic is the most uncomfortable oxymoron; he he he.

By: Chris Downs

Chris Downs — Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:47:05 +0000

I like it: you HAVE to be consistent (and persistent) in your vision. If you start, and a tribe begins to develop, but then you decide it’s too much and leave, that tribe will fall apart. Most people today can tell when a person is trying to sell them something that the seller doesn’t believe in. How can we expect to garner followers and create a tribe if we don’t believe in ourselves and in the idea that we are persisting in?

I have a tendency to not act in leadership when I am somewhere that I feel that there is a better leader present or someone else could do it better. Whether that leader is right or wrong, if they act confident and competent I have a tendency to sit back. This is probably a bad idea; if they start going somewhere that won’t work, maybe I’m the only one that realizes it, but I’m also the schmuck who won’t say anything. I have to be willing at all times to allow my voice to be heard.